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But I'm sure that those 85 people worked harder than half the planet.
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CrystalMV Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
What the hell do you care how hard they work? They made lots of money, why would anyone care if that was hard for them to do or not?
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2015  Student Digital Artist
because those 3.5 billion people have themselves and their families to feed, meanwhile the 85 richest people in the world can afford to throw out entire feasts.
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CrystalMV Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015
It's not like the 85 richest people stole it all from 3.5 billion people. Quite the opposite, they do donate to charity. Should people be considered evil simply because they succeed better than others?

Of course, there is some degree of inequality, such as large corporations receiving exclusive treatment, but that's exactly what a free market isn't, and that's why we need a free market. And since the author of this deviation opposes free market, he's definitely not the one who could make the situation better.
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
SOME donate to charities. Very few actually do, and they're not in that top demographic. 
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CrystalMV Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015
Some donate, some don't. They still pay lots of taxes. Either way, they're rich because people pay them. Which basically means people think the rich ones deserve that wealth. Whatever unfair advantages the rich are given, this problem is not going to be solved by this leftist BS.

Why make the rich look evil in the first place? Some people have health problems, we don't blame the healthy ones for that. Some people are physically weak, it's not the fault of the strong ones. So why look at the rich ones as if they were the cause of poverty? Maybe the poor should try to make their own situation better...
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Student Digital Artist
"Maybe the poor should try to make their own situation better..."
That's the problem. They literally CAN'T. I'm guessing you're a well-paid person, probably second class.

I'm by no means in poverty, but a lot of the luxuries that you people take for granted (your smartphones, for example) I don't have. Why? My father lives on a pension. My mother is disabled. My brother is 11. I have too many mental disabilities to be able to handle a job. We have enough to eat and pay rent and have electricity. But no fancy smartphones, no clothes aside from dollar bins and maybe K-Mart/Big W.

The rich are often corrupt. 'Raise the minimum wage' was legitimately met with 'Why stop at $15? Why not raise it to $100,000?!'. More often than not, they don't actually work very hard to get to where they are. Paris Hilton? Rich beyond her wildest dreams, not one ounce of work to show for it. The Kardashians? Same book. The former Queensland Premier, Campbell Newman? He made sure he was being payed more than the President of the United States AND he did nothing but make things worse in Queensland.
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CrystalMV Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015
My situation is exactly not what you imagine, and that's exactly why I oppose the leftist crap.

My country was under occupation by Soviet Union for 50 years, and the way it screwed the minds of people is just terrible.

Like you, I'm not in poverty, but not rich either. My dad is disabled and gets a pension. Maybe things are starting to get a little better, since my older brother got a job recently and I'm gonna soon graduate from university and start working too. Yet, the situation isn't as good as it should have been.

My main hobby is programming. It's an art. I think I was 11 when I started it. I liked video games and wanted to become a game developer in the future. And by "game developer" I mean the one who actually decides what to make and gets things done - otherwise, I wouldn't be much of an artist. The important thing I couldn't realize for a long time is, I might have taken control of my situation long ago already if I made better decisions.

While I thought that "maybe someday" I would do what I want, most of the time I believed I just have to do what my parents tell me to do, which means going to school, university, and finally finding a job and doing what I'm told by employer to do. I never liked this idea, but I didn't realize there can be something more to life than that.

Often, I would hear complaints about how lazy I am because I don't earn money. What the hell is that? I always did what I was told to do, so why should it be my responsibility to ensure that whatever I'm told to do is of use? After all, that's not even what I wanted to do. I never really wanted to learn what someone says or work for someone, I wanted to be an artist, I wanted to work for myself.

I've realized my mistakes and started programming some stuff which I'm gonna use to earn money if things go well (but it's not going to be so soon that I coud avoid the necessity to work for someone else once I finish the university). Since I'm better at programming than I used to be, all those years weren't completely wasted, but I didn't make the best out of them. It was influence by all that socialist bullshit which means "you do what we tell you to do and we give you security". I don't want security, I want freedom. Freedom to ensure my security by myself. I don't know if I would be earning enough if I could think independently from the beginning, but the situation would be better than it is now. And I don't blame the rich ones for my mistakes, they weren't the ones who influenced me in a negative way.

Now, speaking of you, you say "I have too many mental disabilities to be able to handle a job", but do you need to "handle a job" to make it better? Do you need to do what someone tells you to do? Or is there something you like doing on your own and could make a living from? That's what does matter a lot.

As for minimum wage, well, that's one of unfair advantages I was talking about. In a free market, employers compete for employees. The one who pays more wins the competition, which is an incentive for employers to pay more, so there's hardly a need for a minimum wage. But when the minimum wage is raised, is becomes less profitable to businesses. Especially the small ones - as opposed to large corporations that earn money more efficiently and can afford paying higher wages anyway. That's where it's unfair, and that's where we need to get rid of this socialist crap. Wage should be based on agreement of employer and employee, not on some higher authority.
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AquosBoost Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Student Digital Artist
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Dalek-who Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015
This is true, but it is still BS. It is scientifically proven that the poor are more generous than the rich! It is certainly not fair and if you ask me, there should be major donation to those unfortunate poor people.
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014
Každý svého štěstí tvůrcem.
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WolfofEnder Featured By Owner Edited Nov 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
That's a lot of wealth. :o
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Where are those statistics from? There's a lot of BS on the net.
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aNIGHTLYpony Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Student General Artist
and the best part is: when THEY construct (yes,you read that correctly) an economic crisis on global scale they let US, the regular civilian pay for it. Scumbags.  
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014   Writer
It is impossible for them to have worked better than half the planet. Literally. Impossible. 

Seems like we might need another French Revolution. x33
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NoneStar Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"But I'm sure that those 85 people worked harder than half the planet." They had to work to get there somehow didn't they, also the worlds not fair, if it was, then we wouldn't have all the problems in it, we live in a world of sin. :I
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BatmanWithBunnyEars Featured By Owner May 8, 2014   General Artist
Great poster, and the comment in the description makes it even more awesome.
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elservine Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
Ok. Congrats your point here is useless and is irrelevant. Though true, if you had a brain, you'd find that these own successful companies and most donation money comes from the rich. 
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WritingReaper Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
Actually, at least in the US, most of the money that goes to social programs come from the government via taxes, which the rich do their best to avoid via loop holes like charity, which is meant to be for the betterment of humanity, not tax credits.
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elservine Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Well some of these charities are actually good. Take the Ronald McDonald house for example. Operated by McDonalds. Any the money these rich guys donate actually helps. 
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WritingReaper Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
I'm not saying it doesn't, but it loses a lot of value when they use the tax credits they get from charity to get more money from tax loopholes, that's my problem with it. Charity is not meant to be materially rewarded.
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Cozmia Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sure those 85 people never worked a bit harder than any one else. Don't you just love it when someone uses that "they worked hard for that billion" argument.... I know they didn't work any harder than I have for the last 30 working years of my life
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
You will now proceed to support your claim.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Well there's a good amount of being in the right place at the right time with the right knowledge, along the drive to make some poor "moral" decisions in order to advance. It's not just they worked harder, circumstance and knowledge play in.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
When I want an answer from you, I'll ask you, capiche.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014
*capisce
Understood oh overlord of acceptable opinions
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014
Sorry, but Cozima's the one who made the claim and brought her personal life into it, so by my standards, she has to support it.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
Very true, though this is the comments and everyone is allowed to interject there opinions everywhere, despite not by request. Also you might want to use capisce sparingly, the word makes people sound like assholes. Though you really don't seem like an asshole to me.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
I was in a bad mood when I made the post, so my apologies.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
No
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lichtie Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014

Was it not the very ( I use the term 'very' figuratively, rather than literally)

 Capitalist ideals that caused, or at least, were a large part the recent Financial and Economic crises?


Again, I await with eagerness to your response.


Have a Nice Day.

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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
It certainly could, Schmitt...if the government wasn't confiscating the money you earn at gunpoint and inflating what little they leave you to near worthlessness, all in the name of "helping the poor".

But hey, I thought you'd be happy about that, considering a strong currency and a government that can't expropriate your money are capitalist ideals.
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
People are quite naive nowadays if they think that hard work alone can make someone rich...
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scholarwarrior-lad Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Mindboggling.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The only thing mind boggling is that some people think this is a good thing
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scholarwarrior-lad Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I suppose also some people enjoy getting punched in the balls. :headache:
Just you know, this is financially.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
You wouldn't care even if they did, would you?

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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Greed and lust are the two poisons of today's society. Every system, capitalism, communism, meritocracy, social-democracy and socialism is based upon the assumption that everyone, including the people who run it, is an honest person. No system takes into account human psychology.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
If people weren't greedy, you wouldn't have the computer you're making that comment on, among many other things that make life livable.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Mido, my boy, who, pray tell, does the government get tax dollars from?

From private businesses and private individuals, who earn their money through value for value trades, which is a capitalist ideal. Take them away and your beloved government would have nothing to tax, as bums and moochers do not produce anything for the government to take. Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people.

That, my friend, is why you're blocked. You can't see past the end of your socialist-ass sniffing nose, and I'm not paid enough to think for you.
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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I didn't say all greediness was bad, things like science, religion, power and ideology aren't necesserally good or ad, but they can be used both ways.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Firstly aimed at Sonrouge, but I remembered he blocked me because he fears that I would sink his argument, as I always do.

Here was my message to him, since it is of relevance to you as well:
Untrue, the invention of computers was built through tax-money, meaning is was built through the people's collective, which is a Socialist tenet.
If it was built with profit in mind, then it would be Capitalist in essence. However, the computer, electricity and the internet were all built either from taxes, or for scientific interest, making them Socialist in nature.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Who, pray tell, does the government get tax dollars from?

From private businesses and private individuals, who earn their money through value for value trades, which is a capitalist ideal. Take them away and your beloved government would have nothing to tax, as bums and moochers do not produce anything for the government to take. Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people.  No politician has discovered how to just create, via legislation, the things man uses to better his life.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, you're actually coming out of your cave again?
Huh, who would've guessed, with you blocking me and all.

Wrong; taxes come from the people.
Nearly all American companies dodge taxes, while the burden of funding everything falls onto the common man in the US.

Your second point, also not true.
Like I said previously, the internet and computers were developed by taxes, and by the people. They were not driven by the profit incentive, but for either personal interest, or alternative non-Capitalistic purposes.

If it was built solely to make money, it is Capitalistic (i.e. Nike shoes, for example.).
If it was built through interest, and not for any sort of profit, then it technically is Socialist in nature.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
"Wrong; taxes come from the people.
Nearly all American companies dodge taxes, while the burden of funding everything falls onto the common man in the US." 

Your original point was that the government created computers and the internet via taxes.  My point was that taxes come from individuals, ergo it was not the government who made them possible, but private individuals without which the government would have no money to put to anything.

"Like I said previously, the internet and computers were developed by taxes, and by the people. They were not driven by the profit incentive, but for either personal interest, or alternative non-Capitalistic purposes."


The internet and computers may have been invented by INDIVIDUALS who weren't motivated by profit, but they were mass-produced and made available to more people for profit (AT&T, Microsoft, etc).

Here are my exact words on the subject, since you apparently expect me to pretend I didn't say them:  

Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people. 

"If it was built solely to make money, it is Capitalistic (i.e. Nike shoes, for example.).
If it was built through interest, and not for any sort of profit, then it technically is Socialist in nature."

Capitalism is about the individual pursuing his own selfish interest, which may be a profit or the reward of seeing an idea he's come up with turned real, whichever the individual in question holds as a value.  So either way, whether it was done for profit or it was done for a selfish interest, it was capitalistic in nature.  
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
Tell sonrouge that actually the computer was first developed by Leonardo da Vinci, who actually was an inventor, a social reformer, and a man who believed in developing and expanding on human enlightenment. Not greed.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Did Leonardo create the computer because other people wanted him to create it, or because he himself wanted to?
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014
Bout time.

Well you tell me. Did the man learn because he was forced or did he WANT to learn about the world around him? He wasn't paid for his experiments, he was paid for performing work people requested him to do. Even at that, he hated creating war technologies for the rulers of Italy. While paintings were a spire of revenue, he wanted to study the world.


So either way you pitch this example, it will still seem silly for you to advocate that he was a Capitalist because he was against hierarchal rule. Even there Communism and Socialism allow for and advocate for freedom, contrary to your belief.
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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Student General Artist
I know.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
The computer may have been originally made by da Vinci, but it was mass-produced and made available to people all over the world by people who were greedy to make money.
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014   General Artist
How about sharing some NAMES? :)
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