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Unquenchable Greed by Party9999999 Unquenchable Greed by Party9999999
But I'm sure that those 85 people worked harder than half the planet.
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originalCzechball Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  New member
Každý svého štěstí tvůrcem.
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WolfofEnder Featured By Owner Edited Nov 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
That's a lot of wealth. :o
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Where are those statistics from? There's a lot of BS on the net.
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aNIGHTLYpony Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2014  Student General Artist
and the best part is: when THEY construct (yes,you read that correctly) an economic crisis on global scale they let US, the regular civilian pay for it. Scumbags.  
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014   Writer
It is impossible for them to have worked better than half the planet. Literally. Impossible. 

Seems like we might need another French Revolution. x33
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NoneStar Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"But I'm sure that those 85 people worked harder than half the planet." They had to work to get there somehow didn't they, also the worlds not fair, if it was, then we wouldn't have all the problems in it, we live in a world of sin. :I
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BatmanWithBunnyEars Featured By Owner May 8, 2014   General Artist
Great poster, and the comment in the description makes it even more awesome.
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elservine Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
Ok. Congrats your point here is useless and is irrelevant. Though true, if you had a brain, you'd find that these own successful companies and most donation money comes from the rich. 
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WritingReaper Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2014
Actually, at least in the US, most of the money that goes to social programs come from the government via taxes, which the rich do their best to avoid via loop holes like charity, which is meant to be for the betterment of humanity, not tax credits.
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elservine Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
Well some of these charities are actually good. Take the Ronald McDonald house for example. Operated by McDonalds. Any the money these rich guys donate actually helps. 
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WritingReaper Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2014
I'm not saying it doesn't, but it loses a lot of value when they use the tax credits they get from charity to get more money from tax loopholes, that's my problem with it. Charity is not meant to be materially rewarded.
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Cozmia Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm sure those 85 people never worked a bit harder than any one else. Don't you just love it when someone uses that "they worked hard for that billion" argument.... I know they didn't work any harder than I have for the last 30 working years of my life
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
You will now proceed to support your claim.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Well there's a good amount of being in the right place at the right time with the right knowledge, along the drive to make some poor "moral" decisions in order to advance. It's not just they worked harder, circumstance and knowledge play in.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2014
When I want an answer from you, I'll ask you, capiche.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014
*capisce
Understood oh overlord of acceptable opinions
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014
Sorry, but Cozima's the one who made the claim and brought her personal life into it, so by my standards, she has to support it.
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fchs219376 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
Very true, though this is the comments and everyone is allowed to interject there opinions everywhere, despite not by request. Also you might want to use capisce sparingly, the word makes people sound like assholes. Though you really don't seem like an asshole to me.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2014
I was in a bad mood when I made the post, so my apologies.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
No
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lichtie Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014

Was it not the very ( I use the term 'very' figuratively, rather than literally)

 Capitalist ideals that caused, or at least, were a large part the recent Financial and Economic crises?


Again, I await with eagerness to your response.


Have a Nice Day.

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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
It certainly could, Schmitt...if the government wasn't confiscating the money you earn at gunpoint and inflating what little they leave you to near worthlessness, all in the name of "helping the poor".

But hey, I thought you'd be happy about that, considering a strong currency and a government that can't expropriate your money are capitalist ideals.
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SchmittLenin Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
People are quite naive nowadays if they think that hard work alone can make someone rich...
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scholarwarrior-lad Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Mindboggling.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
The only thing mind boggling is that some people think this is a good thing
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scholarwarrior-lad Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I suppose also some people enjoy getting punched in the balls. :headache:
Just you know, this is financially.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
You wouldn't care even if they did, would you?

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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Student General Artist
Greed and lust are the two poisons of today's society. Every system, capitalism, communism, meritocracy, social-democracy and socialism is based upon the assumption that everyone, including the people who run it, is an honest person. No system takes into account human psychology.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
If people weren't greedy, you wouldn't have the computer you're making that comment on, among many other things that make life livable.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
Mido, my boy, who, pray tell, does the government get tax dollars from?

From private businesses and private individuals, who earn their money through value for value trades, which is a capitalist ideal. Take them away and your beloved government would have nothing to tax, as bums and moochers do not produce anything for the government to take. Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people.

That, my friend, is why you're blocked. You can't see past the end of your socialist-ass sniffing nose, and I'm not paid enough to think for you.
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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014  Student General Artist
I didn't say all greediness was bad, things like science, religion, power and ideology aren't necesserally good or ad, but they can be used both ways.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Firstly aimed at Sonrouge, but I remembered he blocked me because he fears that I would sink his argument, as I always do.

Here was my message to him, since it is of relevance to you as well:
Untrue, the invention of computers was built through tax-money, meaning is was built through the people's collective, which is a Socialist tenet.
If it was built with profit in mind, then it would be Capitalist in essence. However, the computer, electricity and the internet were all built either from taxes, or for scientific interest, making them Socialist in nature.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Who, pray tell, does the government get tax dollars from?

From private businesses and private individuals, who earn their money through value for value trades, which is a capitalist ideal. Take them away and your beloved government would have nothing to tax, as bums and moochers do not produce anything for the government to take. Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people.  No politician has discovered how to just create, via legislation, the things man uses to better his life.
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mido557 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, you're actually coming out of your cave again?
Huh, who would've guessed, with you blocking me and all.

Wrong; taxes come from the people.
Nearly all American companies dodge taxes, while the burden of funding everything falls onto the common man in the US.

Your second point, also not true.
Like I said previously, the internet and computers were developed by taxes, and by the people. They were not driven by the profit incentive, but for either personal interest, or alternative non-Capitalistic purposes.

If it was built solely to make money, it is Capitalistic (i.e. Nike shoes, for example.).
If it was built through interest, and not for any sort of profit, then it technically is Socialist in nature.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
"Wrong; taxes come from the people.
Nearly all American companies dodge taxes, while the burden of funding everything falls onto the common man in the US." 

Your original point was that the government created computers and the internet via taxes.  My point was that taxes come from individuals, ergo it was not the government who made them possible, but private individuals without which the government would have no money to put to anything.

"Like I said previously, the internet and computers were developed by taxes, and by the people. They were not driven by the profit incentive, but for either personal interest, or alternative non-Capitalistic purposes."


The internet and computers may have been invented by INDIVIDUALS who weren't motivated by profit, but they were mass-produced and made available to more people for profit (AT&T, Microsoft, etc).

Here are my exact words on the subject, since you apparently expect me to pretend I didn't say them:  

Furthermore, private individuals had to discover how to create and then create the internet, electricity, and the computer, and it was individuals who were greedy for money who thought up ways to mass produce them and made them available to more and more people. 

"If it was built solely to make money, it is Capitalistic (i.e. Nike shoes, for example.).
If it was built through interest, and not for any sort of profit, then it technically is Socialist in nature."

Capitalism is about the individual pursuing his own selfish interest, which may be a profit or the reward of seeing an idea he's come up with turned real, whichever the individual in question holds as a value.  So either way, whether it was done for profit or it was done for a selfish interest, it was capitalistic in nature.  
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014
Tell sonrouge that actually the computer was first developed by Leonardo da Vinci, who actually was an inventor, a social reformer, and a man who believed in developing and expanding on human enlightenment. Not greed.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
Did Leonardo create the computer because other people wanted him to create it, or because he himself wanted to?
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014
Bout time.

Well you tell me. Did the man learn because he was forced or did he WANT to learn about the world around him? He wasn't paid for his experiments, he was paid for performing work people requested him to do. Even at that, he hated creating war technologies for the rulers of Italy. While paintings were a spire of revenue, he wanted to study the world.


So either way you pitch this example, it will still seem silly for you to advocate that he was a Capitalist because he was against hierarchal rule. Even there Communism and Socialism allow for and advocate for freedom, contrary to your belief.
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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Student General Artist
I know.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014
The computer may have been originally made by da Vinci, but it was mass-produced and made available to people all over the world by people who were greedy to make money.
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DasGhul Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2014   General Artist
How about sharing some NAMES? :)
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