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The more I read about Winston Churchill the more I dislike him.
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PropagandaStamps Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2015
You're accusing Churchill of being alcoholic while you don't see problem that communists were hardcore drinkers, too. That are some double standards. 
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Gerszewski Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2015
Maybe socialism isn't philosophy of the failure but your spelling is.
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alfie532 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2015
Churchill is a hero to Britian United Kingdom 
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Gerszewski Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2015
Einstein wasn't a politican...
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ARCN7 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Guess why...
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EvanOakTree Featured By Owner Edited Nov 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Both of them are trash.



Also nice typo with "Philosophy." 
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PropagandaStamps Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2015
I doubt that one of biggest physician of the 20th century and one of the main reasons why Nazis were destroyed are trash. 
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PropagandaStamps Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2015
*physicist
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EvanOakTree Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Commies are Trash. "Nazis" AKA GERMANS, were scientific geniuses and were a strong healthy European society. This is simply what is observable.  "physician" rofl...You mean Physicist? Albert Einstein's theoretical theories have already been proven wrong, even with the scientific community at large treating him like a God.  www.sciencenews.org/article/sp…; Just check out these two links.  www.iflscience.com/physics/sci…
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AdmiralMichalis Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014
You bash Churchill for his political views, and yet he was the man who led Britain to stand up to Hitler and hold off the Nazis alone for over a year, even while the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were friendly with each other.  Doesn't this seem a conflict-of-interest at all?
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EvanOakTree Featured By Owner Edited Nov 24, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Churchill and the French were dominated by the Germans.

Also, Hitler hated the communists. Hitler made a temporary pact with Stalin before he invaded/liberated Poland...But only because he was trying to prevent having to fight a conflict with the whole world because the British+French empires said they would declare war on Germany if they dared to invade Poland, (and save the German civilians who were being massacred there.)
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EdmundBurke Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
And here Churchill was right and absolutely dead on!
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014
Einstein is a genius. Churchill was a warmonger. 

Nuff said.
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Gerszewski Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2015
Well, Churchill was a politican while Einstein wasn't so the fact that he was genius in physics doesn't really matter. 
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Well then, it's a good thing Einstein was a physicist and not an economist or sociologist.

Here's Elitism at work here... And no, not by Einstein, but by psuedo-intellectuals who think that because someone who's really smart in one area is smart in all.

Einstein had an opinion. Considering where he came from and during what era, I don't blame him for having such a low opinion of Capitalism. But I'm not surprised you didn't attach a DATE to the quote.

And Churchill kept the Nazis from killing Britain, you dunce. He saw what was coming YEARS in advance.

Chamberlain? He wanted to roll over.

How about you drop that Howard Zinn history book in the garbage bin and pick up one written a little closer to the events in question.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014

Right so Einstein's opinion doesn't matter anyway other than physics.

Churchill was Prime Minster for five years and rallied against Nazism, there are another 85 years of his life. During which of was a committed Imperialist, rallied against women's suffrages, supported Allied intervention in Russia, supported both Benito Mussolini and Francisco Franco before the outbreak of the second world war, favoured using poison gas against the Kurdish people to name a few.

Yes my opinion of Chamberlain is low, but I at lest understand why he tried to avoid a war (note, understanding is not the same a agreeing) Also my dislike of Churchill doesn't equate with support of Chamberlain.

I spend years studying history, don't think they may be a reason I came to view I have. On a side note I should get round to reading some of Zinn's work.

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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, you'd love Zinn's work. He's a shoe-in for Communism. Lies about half the content in his books, but nobody calls him on it because it's just 'Another interpretaaaation' of history.

Damned bloody skippy! Then how about teaching students OTHER interpretations to provide a balanced look?

No?

Screw that noise.

And yes, Einstein was a brilliant scientist, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything by default. That's a projected elitist mentality.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
All history is based on the interpretation of the person who wrote it. If you want a history book without bias you're going to be looking for a very long time, Historians are human and like the rest of us they are subject to their own ideas and reasoning.

So it's elitist of me to quote a person who's educated, but it's no elitist of you to support a system based on the idea that the rich are better than the poor because they are rich.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Who said I thought the rich were better than the poor...?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014
Your whole political economic system is based on that idea.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
How do you figure?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2014
The class nature of capitalism.
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ninjawerr Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2013  Professional Writer
i think you have Einstein mixed up with Marx.
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Komatsuzaki-Xingqi Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Somebody don't like dem British right-wingers. 
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MuslimGoku Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013
Churchill was also genocidal racist who thought genocides were a good way of getting rid of inferior races
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WrathFan99 Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2013  Student General Artist
Einstein`s expose was indeed brilliant although I wouldn`t say " economic anarchy ( That`s an insult to the beautiful philosophy of anarchism ) " so much as " economic nihilism " because Capitalism sucks the meaning out of everything for profit . 
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loreshaper-kethal Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013
You might be interested to know that I know for absolute certain that churchill was a member of the actual illuminati.

That would explain a lot.
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Kegger98 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
Again, apples and oranges. I mean, your lifting a quote. Not a newstory about how he killed puppy's. In fact. Who gives a shit what a politician who died nearly 50 years ago thought? Hell, Einstein helped create the atomic bomb.
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Sonikkubumu Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hate when people misrepresent anarchy as chaos but I do agree with Einstein's quote 
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Prove to me that Einstein said this.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Fair enough. I actually do buy Einstein was a socialist, but that doesn't mean anything to me.
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4our-Foxtrot Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013
I will give this a +1. 

However people forget that no ones perfect, everyone's a hypocrite and can be corruptible. 

Einsteins second wife was also his cousin. Incest also known as consanguinity is detrimental to a species survival. It literally limits the genepool bringing down the species, limiting function and chances of survival! - My thoughts and some of his, reading - Charles Darwin: Origin of species.

Einstein also created the atom bomb and "allowed" it to be used for the killing of millions. He possibly sold the atom bomb as for profit (don't quote me on that). He was also put up for nomination to be the head of the state of Israel, which for most of it's history wasn't a jewish state and my opinion shouldn't be!

I think I'll finish by saying that it's pointless to take a side when it comes to these men. Both are as bad as the other, it's just that one admittedly was more intelligent than the other!
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TheInimitableECypher Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
"Einstein also created the atom bomb and "allowed" it to be used for the killing of millions."

Einstein didn't create the atom bomb. He never took any part in the Manhattan Project. His involvement with the bomb only goes so far as that he advocated for its use originally, in fear that Nazi Germany would get the bomb first. He signed off on a letter to FDR, but later on, after realizing that Germany had no chance of making atomic weapons, he changed his mind and tried to get the president to not go through with using it. But by then FDR was dead and it was too late.

Afterwards he considered the letter to FDR, advocating for use of the bomb, to be the one great mistake in his life.
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4our-Foxtrot Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014
Thanks for the reply. Well apologies for my ignorance.

However of course I need more than just your word for it, I'll go with it for now though.

So from what you're saying he appeared to wrestle with it, "shall I let them use it, shall I not".

Interesting....
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TheInimitableECypher Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Don't mistake my intention; I wasn't telling you this to be a dick. Just wanted to clarify that Einstein wasn't part of the bomb. I wasn't trying to come off as a know-it-all asswipe. ^^;
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4our-Foxtrot Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2014
Yep, fair play.

It's alright. :)
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Valendale Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
"Why Socialism?" is a very well written article and an excellent critique of capitalism
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RamboRob Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013
Link Pls? :p 
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Valendale Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/w…

It's from a 1949 article in the Monthly Review :)
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IrkenConfederate Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

Do you hear the people sing! Singing a song of angry men!

 

While Einstein might have been biased by the Fascist Nazis (since he was Jewish), the point he makes is no less valid. We have to accept that one of the virtues socialism has that capitalism lacks is the intention of sharing labor products with those who need them, not just those who can afford them.

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doomroar76 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
The face of Einstein that they never tell you, but that is always there!
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blackstrike Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Professional Photographer
We need lots more people like Einstein, not just for his scientific genius!
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Kellkrull87 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
I dont care if Churchill was a bastard. Without him, the UK would have fallen to Hitler's hordes, simple as that. :(
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ComradeLither Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The UK was hindered by Churchill's strategic brainwaves more than it was helped.
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Valendale Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Also, without Stalin, the UK would have fallen to Hitler's hordes :)
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Kellkrull87 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
Not just the UK but most of Africa, the Middle-East and Hitler may even have moved against Franco in Spain and Salazar in Portugal given a few years. One of Hitlers dream was a colossal war, after his time, between a National-Socialist Europe and the USA where only one would stand victorious. 

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Valendale Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
National Socialism was really Orwellian new speak for political propaganda, Hitler was backed by capitalist industrialists who saw fascism as a preferable alternative to socialism. They used the public's interest in socialism to seize power democratically then they abolished democracy, killed any socialist who wouldn't go along with their anti-socialist programs, and established the preservation of private property and class among their top priorities (the opposite of socialism).

Politicians pretty much always lie and pretend to be something they're not.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
We needed More Neville chamberlains!
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2013
Too right! Churchill was a BASTARD, Einstein was a genius!
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