No regards to human rights
A soceity where everyone is poor
The small nations with the best models of socialism survived the collapse in the '90s and will still stand when the USA and Canada devolve into fascism.
Have fun in the orwellian future of Capitalism.
I see you have anarchist communists among your watchers, and I don't understand how anyone could be that deluded. I mean, how could any anarchist be okay with the shit which Soviet Union has done? As anarcho-capitalist, I'd rather expect them to accept the system where they actually are allowed to create collectivist groups with shared property (which they could freely do in anarcho-capitalism) rather than the system where they would be treated as trash.
Not only that, but I also avoid misusing the word 'communism'. I avoid using it to refer to totalitarian dictatorships that hijacked the word. I avoid bringing the undeserved hate upon communism, so at least I do something good for real communists.
Also, the way you use the word 'fascist' is very offensive, it's just the way the soviets say 'nigger'. That's how the soviets used to refer to their slaves. Sure, it's okay to use any word in a non-derogatory way, such as "yo, what's crackin', ma' fascist?" or "how's it goin', ma' nigga?", but that's not how you use it.
True capitalist to the soul, 'till the bullet hole.
3. : racism and sexism are part of the character of someone - the only racism and sexism you can combat are in the law and in the education; Everything else either follows or can't really be changed.
There's no way you can change someone into being a better person : Asshole stays asshole.
4. : To say we'll all be equal is unrealistic and in some aspects (like biology) just not a good thing to reach - instead, like I said, equality under the law and in education should be the goal.
Conservatives will never understand liberals, exactly the way liberals can't really understand conservatives - both systems have good and bad ideas.
(though I got to say that most conservative ideas look like utter horseshit to me - like conservative nationalism and a completely free market for instance - and history has cearly shown them to be horrible)
1. They don't want to pay taxes.
2. They are greedy assholes.
3. They are secretly racist and sexist.
4. They don't care about society.
It's fun to list how dumb the upper cass is
1. Taxes aren't good for shit
2. and your Corrupt masters aren't not??
3. Slander and bribed accusation lies
4. you got that reversed
Upper cass?? it's Class You Yokel Capitalism is Death Socialism is Liberation!!!!!!!!!
2. Corrupted masters? Herein Finland? Da fug do you mean!?
3. A radical example, I admit. Not all rich people are. But if you are rich and powerful, you can get away with almost everything, even with racist or sexist comments.
4. A working society needs everyone in it to help and support each other. People who avoid the payment of taxes are keeping part of the nations wealth, that could be used to provide free schooling, health care, public transport, social services etc.
Oh sorry for one small incorrect word, mein grammar Führer
2. Even Finland has a black sheep amoung it's herd remember every herd always has a black sheep amoung them
3. not if they are taken down by a rogue faction
4. And why aren't those services Free?? Because of chains of taxes and regulations made to slow and deviate and stupify the common folk from the upper class
Capitalism is Not the answer to everything only money is gained and with money comes greed and greed breeds corruption your Capitalistic logic is Invalid
Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system. This may refer to extending principles of democracy in the economy (such as through cooperatives or workplace democracy), or may simply refer to trends of socialism that emphasise democratic principles as inalienable from their political project.
There is no exact definition of democratic socialism. Some forms of democratic socialism overlap with social democracy, while other forms reject social democratic reformism in favor of more revolutionary methods, and overlap with Revolutionary Socialism.
Some definitions simply refer to all forms of socialism that follow a gradual, reformist or evolutionary path to socialism, rather than a revolutionary one. Often, this definition is invoked to distinguish democratic socialism from Stalinist socialism, as in Donald Busky's Democratic Socialism: A Global Survey, Jim Tomlinson's Democratic Socialism and Economic Policy: The Attlee Years, 1945-1951, Norman Thomas Democratic Socialism: a new appraisal or Roy Hattersley's Choose Freedom: The Future of Democratic Socialism.
2. Public schools don't work either. One only has to read any new article from Philly to understand that; our schools have been floundering for YEARS but keep squealing for more money when we're already dumping it at them. Just look at this pie chart and tell me with a straight face that's not enough. www.pahousegop.com/Display/Sit…
3. I concede that racism and sexism are issues, but they're nowhere near as prevalent as they used to be. It's also worth noting that racism and sexism are at least somewhat genetically hardwired into us. I'll have to dig up the source for that, if anyone asks.
4. See, the issue with making everyone equal is that you have to cater to the lowest common denominator. If everyone was truly equal, EVERYONE WOULD BE A DUMBASS!!! Read a good little short story on that once; the government used chips to inhibit people's intelligence so they'd all be on the same, dumber than a kindergartener footing.
U.S.A is Capitalist now let me show you how policies are in diffrent cities that believe in one of thise in catergories as in USA's Capitalism and the former USSR's beliefs Communism(Without tyrants intervining)
Location:South American Countries and United States of America, China's goverment also( China's political standing not taken into account)
Political standing: Capitalist (Communist rebellions exept for Cuba is complete communist)
Corruption: Massive & wide spread
Reason: Laws enforced by corrupted officials and un-controlled Drug cartels & Drug Warlords and Crime sydicates running rampant and free to do as they wish
Location: Canada and Most west-europian countries
Political standing: mostly Communist ideals (pretending to be Capitalist for Anti-communist USA)
Corruption: Very low and far in between
Reason: everybody gets Healthcare and Education support and nobody is hostile
Surwey says: DO THE MATH!!!! COMMUNISM RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!
It's obvious you know sh*t about economy, or even what you want to believe.
Europe's economic situation is broken because of their socialist experiment, every country you listed as "communist" is not communist at all. It has free market and leftist ideals, which are not against capitalism.
U.S.A. was FEARED among the nations, they thought Bush is going to drop big ones on any country that decides to f*ck with them, you know what ruined it? Leftists aka. your communists, and it went down the gutter.
because we care for the Low and down trotten. a happy people is a strong people
i didn't expect for you to understand
that means the Commies saved the world once again They stopped the Nazi bastards and stopped Bush for Nuking the world your logic is Flawed more than a Zig-zag knife
Don't even CALL PEOPLE WHO KILLED NAZIS COMMIES, don't even motherfucking try or I'll punch you with power of thousands of fists.
First of all, commies fought with almost all nations spreading "communism" love, trying to spread their rotten culture and ideology. Just like nazis, but actual people who stopped them are Poles and USA with help of France and UK.
Actually USA was better off during Bush than it is now, people were scared he'll drop a big one on them. But now people shit on america cause voters are left winged pussies.
You don't even know if I'm coming from a rich family you bloody idiot, I know shit about economy because I'm supposed to specialize in it. Also learn how to 'spoken'.
Please call me racist because I don't agree with your dumb ideologies that would fuck up modern world. Please do, it's quite funny.
My roots are slavic, so yes - my ancestors lived in tribes too.
Communism as an idea is okay, actually in some of my books there are small societies that work in a form of it. However when you apply it with a vast number of humans. Let's just say people start to get tired of getting less than what they worked, and supporting the lazy. Not all jobs are the same. And once you put a human in charge of something, it eventually falls apart. Humans are naturally greedy. The onse that were not greedy was massacred about 200 years ago.
But I prefer to be responsible for my own living, not someone else. And I am on the low end of the totem poll when it comes to class. But I have the opportunity to climb it. With Communism, can you climb a ladder and improve your living? Or are you stuck on the same level, regardless how hard you work, for the sake of keeping people equal?
>Is cussed out for it without argument
even more toplel.
>Mistakes socialism for Communism
>should do research lel
Nowhere have I stated that socialism is the same as Marxism or any of its implementations that are widely described as communism.
I myself could be described as 'economically left' as I do have a strong support for welfare.
I have researched enough about communism. And while I myself lack the empathy to disregard ideologies because of their death count. I simply disagree with communism.
But I do consider those deaths as important. They tell us something.
Lenin: 11 million
Stalin: 40 million
Mao: 60 million
And these are just examples. When reading about Mao, well, besides being a cruel wank I am convinced most of the deaths caused by him are just his stupid self trying to implement the ideology and failing terribly.
Lenin was probably just cruel, but perhaps had the same mind-set as for example the authoritarian leader Adolf Hitler. Both used camps as a punishment, Why Lenin's death toll greatly exceeds that Adolf's is probably because Russia is one hell of a big country. While strongly disregarding communism, I must say I don’t believe Lenin didn’t care about his people. He worked 16 hours a day, and his heart attack was speculated to be the cause of stress. So like I said, probably just because of authoritarian rule. Still to be taken seriously but it is a different thing.
Stalin... Stalin was a smart guy. But in no way did he care for his people. Where at some points Russian leaders forced entire populations of ethnicities out of their native land to repress Nationalism (which is still horrible), Stalin saw a rise of nationalism in the Ukraine and thought 'hey, why not take the easy way?' and killed 7,5 million Ukrainians through starvation which is known as the Holodomor. Further horrors of Stalin included aiding the Polish forces in purging ethnic-Germans that were forced to live there after the treaty of Versailles, having the secret police pick up random innocents so they could be executed on film (after they were forced to admit their fictional crimes, as to create a false image), and many many civilians targeted for deportation to gulags or execution because of their supposed 'threat' to the nation. Intellectuals, high ranking officers, people with important positions of power... because perhaps they would conspire to overthrow Stalin, yes?
Stalin had no regard for human decency and was a terrible man. Even Lenin sais this. In Lenin's last testament, he said that Stalin had to be removed from his position of power at all costs, for he had qualities that were 'unfit for a man in his positon'. Stalin and his followers made sure that Lenin's last testament would never be read aloud to the 13th Party Congress as was Lenin's will. Stalin was a smart man. He was able to govern. But, with such extreme inhumanity that everyone else who did not bow to his will completely (and even those completely innocent) paid the price.
These 3 caused deaths by implementing the ideology. Anti-nationalism, the enforcing of equality on all areas, and the abolishment property- people were a resource used and owned by the government. People weren’t people anymore.
I suggest that if you want to see the undeniable and peaceful success of communism, you should go live in North-Korea. I would definitely be willing to hear from you then, if they haven’t taken away international contact through internet to censor things...
And North Korea? They're not even Communist. In fact, their official name, The Democratic People's Republic of Korea, would suggest that they are right-wing (Which everyone knows they are not), yet they're Socialist. Plus, EQUALITY. Do you see that in NK? I think not
It should be fused with other ideas or principles of other systems.
Communism has many flaws the way it is established now, or we could say it is used or managed the wrong way.
But a well thought and balanced one can do great things for a country, especially for those who work.
I live in a country where the poor has it all and the worker has less every day.
The governement takes the money from the workers to give it to the "poor". Now, in my country, this is the definition of poor: Free house with all the space and rooms you desire, pools, light and water bills are cheaper, free food, new remodeling inside and outside house, new expensive celphones, nails, women have 4 kids or more and always have time for beauty salons. What do they do to deserve all this? Nothing. :3 Just chillax at their homes while the workers wake up at 4am, leave their families and go sweat their butts off to at least support the "poor", themselves and the family.
Rich people in my country...they are in their own world. They care less for the poor and the worker, just making money.
What I suggest? The poor should stay poor unless they work to get out of the hole they are in. Sounds cruel but I think its best. Treat society a bit with harshness can teach them a lesson that to get the things you want and "deserve" you should study and/or work for it. Nothing should come easy as 1,2,3 to your hands without moving a finger and making kids all day.
Another problem with my country is that "poor" women give birth to many children. I see this so wrong. Most do it for sex or accidents in affairs. They have "necesities". They can't afford to have more kids. Aaaaah, but in y country, the more kids you have the more money they give you, PER CHILD. :'3 Isnt it great?
Sometimes I wonder who truly is poor in my country. The lazy or the worker. :/
Of course, politicians dont move a finger. They offer all these benefits to the "poor". The MAJORITY in my country are "poor" or enjoy the "Wellfare" shit. What democracy is this shit? NO DEMOCRACY! WHY SHOULD ALL THE WEIGHT FALL ON THE WORKER?
Anyways, I want a true leader, not a politician as the administrator of my country.
God bless you all.
But i don't agree with what you say about the weight of a country should fall on the shoulder of the government. I can understand what you mean. You Don't force a man to work until he drops dead. But i don't elect a man or a woman to be the first minister and expect him/her to do my work for me. Its like, putting the entire weight of your country, job and family on their shoulders and the complain that they are doing a bad job (though they do have priorities they should focus on and stop spending money on stupid stuff). We all have our part in holding up our country.
Now back to the politics. I feel communism is more of a way to help your country during the time of need. Like during war or a depression. People will get what they need to survive, and the government will get the money the need to rebuild the country(if the aren't greedy and try to spend all the money on stupid stuff). But you do give some good points.
I give you my respect.
May God watch over you.
* Backwards culture
* Slow technological development
* Isolation from the world
* Shoddy good quality
* Low standard of living
The Dangers of Democratic Capitalism:
* A say in the government
* Private, personal Ownership
* Quick Technological development
* Cultural Exchange
* Unequal wealth distribution
* Exploitative Businessmen
* Being exposed to ideas you disagree with everyday
* Abuse of different peoples and minorities
* Being responsible for your own living
THE THINGS LISTED HERE ARE GOOD! WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO PREVENT THEM?!