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For all the revisionism financial crisis, most people still remember what really happened.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Smash the right!
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Even in my weakest moments, you limey jackass, I have NEVER advocated for the 'smashing' or other ruination of the other side.

You see, I'm actually smart enough to realize that my side won't always be correct. That my side has some bad habits. That's why it needs your side to balance it out.

If I had the power to annihilate the Left, I would not use that power.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014
Limey jackass? Oh, fuck off, yer basement-dwelling cartoon furry porn degenerate! Quit with your misplaced moralising.

"That my side has some bad habits. That's why it needs your side to balance it out."
If you actually believe that, then there's no problem
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I damned well do believe that.

You know what happens to a battery when one side overpowers the other? The battery goes dead.

Binary is built into our very nature. The Yin-Yang dualism.

I believe to my core that both philosophies are required. So this childish, insipid notion of overpowering the other needs to stop and it needs to stop NOW.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
If that's the case, why pick a side? Why give bias toward the right over the left when the latter constitutes the former?
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Because of the heavy cultural imbalance.

Mark my words, if things were swaying too far to the right, I would be just as fussy and pissing off another group of people entirely.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014
But isn't it a right wing opinion to claim that the country is too far to the left? I mean, just to say something like that comes with its own embedded values.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Ask yourself this... which way does pop culture tend to trend these days? And the majority of news? And populists?

Not a trick question here.
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CrimsonFALKE Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Teachers have it bad here, Norway treats teachers the way they deserve.
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My mom is a teacher, and people think that teachers don't do their job, don't work, don't do this or that, etc.

My state is slowly draining their pensions in the name of greed, in fact all public workers pensions are being drained, except the state congressmen's pensions, they're the only ones growing, hmm I wonder why?
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Remember how the teachers unions supported the voucher's program because they cared more about the students than their workers rights and tax revenue? Yeah, me neither.
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Remember that the voucher programs are only meant to allow religous(almost always Christian) school to get even more money for brainwashing children with outdated myths and non-science?
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No. Voucher programs allow for poor people to go to any private school religious or not, so they don't have to be stuck with the inefficient public schools that have offered so little discipline for them. Anyone who believes in equality for the poor would not be against voucher programs.
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Anyone who believes in equality for the poor would support using tax dollars to improve public schools instead of funding religous schools-which violates the seperation of church and state. If you insist on a voucher program, then at least exclude religous schools from it.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So what? You want the public schools to have golden fountains and give caviar to students with the tax payers money? No. You know how to improve the public schools? You get rid of the union rules and government laws that restrict teachers from properly disciplining and educating students. That's why voucher programs have been proposed, to fill the void in discipline in the poor communities that the public schools have lacked, the kind of lack of discipline that has allowed for many young ones to get swayed into drug dealing and gun crimes, because those criminals serve more as a role model for the students than either the teachers or the parents (a lot of times there's only one parent with the student.)

So to clarify your point yes you can improve the public schools instead of doing the voucher program but it requires the elimination of the union rules and laws. Conservatives don't want to take it this way because they don't want to force others to act a certain way. So instead they propose a voucher program, but of course, the democrats had to stop it because "some private schools are religious," even though students that have learned in private schools have had this tendency to grow up as a wealthy businessman, intellectual, author, or inventor, whereas poor people who grow up in public schools in that area have a tendency to become pedophiles, thugs, and burglars.
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So are you saying that teachers don't deserve fair pay and benefits for the work they do?
And has it occurred to you that the reason why students in private schools are more likely to grow up rich is because, obviously, they already had to be rich to attend such schools in the first place.
Perhaps if spoiled brats like you were forced to attend the same schools as everyone else, real progress would finally be achieved in education and society.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And what about their families? How do you think they could've afforded to go to such schools. Maybe because they've made a lot of money, because they got a good education, perhaps from a private school. And I didn't just say rich people. I talked about authors and inventors and intellectuals too.

Dude, I go to public school. I've gone to public schools my entire life. My family is middle class. How about you just know someone first before you call them a spoiled brat mmm' kay?

I'm not saying teachers don't deserve to get paid for their work, but how about you eliminate the union rules so the efforts the teachers pull forth actually becomes effective so students aren't taken in by some drug dealer
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No, but I remember the federal government requiring banks to offer mortgages to poor people so they could buy houses they couldn’t afford through the Community Reinvestment Act, soaking up all the bad loans through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and bailing out the failed banks through the Federal Reserve (which also gave trillions in secret bailouts to select corporations and banks). I also remember the government running up the national debt though two preemptive wars, corporate welfare, and runaway entitlements. Funny how most people don’t remember that stuff.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
People don't remember it because it never happened
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BlameThe1st Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Community Reinvestment Act never happened? Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac never happened? The bank bailouts never happened? What color is the sky in your world? Because here it's blue!
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Must be red in his world
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
The problems of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac came from the banks dumping bad loans on it.
The banks made those loans in order to boost the loan portfolios short term, in order to push executive bonuses UP. Then they sold those loans to unsuspecting third parties, as "high yield mortgage backed securities".
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
And that was the fault of a fat, homosexual Leftist who is yet to be held accountable for his actions simply because he's the Left's token gay congressman.

I don't *care* about the man's personal lifestyle as long as it doesn't effect his job (Such as the case with Clinton). But when he does really dirty dealings I can't help but shake my head at the Left's unwillingness to deal with this crap.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
And don't forget how the government made the banks make real estate more affordable, which created a cycle that eventually raised the prices too high. Both the government and the banks are too blame.
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Brighteclipse Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2012
the problem is that the ones with all the money and power in a capitalist systems are just like the ones with all the money and power at the top of the communist system
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nanashi89 Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012
Spreading this to Doug Giles site.
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Dravazed Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
Again, please let me know if you'd like this tweeted. Thanks.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
If you wanna tweet it go ahead
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Dravazed Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
Done. Thanks again.
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BigB700 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
should be 20% for ALL. over taxing people who make more money = what benefit is there to working harder? I have 2 siblings who are MD and they both make massively larger paycheck that I probably 10-12x what I do but after the taxes they pay plus paying off there school loans they only take home 5-6x the money. yes that is still a LOT of money but they went to the hardest schooling possible at the moment for 8 years+ to get there, they should make that money. you can jump on people richer that you but at some point they or someone in their family has simply done more WORK than you or I to get to there. sometimes that is people not doing honest or kindest of things but it still took lots of time and effort. yeah the ultra rich created the possibility of the financial crisis but the real problem was that people were willing to go hmmm..... I make $2000 a month, lemme see rent, food, bills= $1500/mo yet that new car is $500/mo I can do that. But lets forget the clothes or gas or anything else i want... sure! that's what a credit card is for right? Just a bit of a rant. :) there is more to it but I should stop
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You know back in the fifties and sixties the tax rate on the wealthiest citizens was around ninety percent, and the United States saw its greatest period of prosperity. 

A flat tax rate is only superficially fair, as twenty percent is a lot more of a poor man's income than it is a wealthy man. 
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ComradeDerpy Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
*there should be a comma after market; otherwise the statement is too much of a run-on. But hey, I'll gladly pass the message on!
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The-Laughing-Rabbit Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I like what Iceland did. Rather than giving bankers bailout money, they nationalized the banks to stabilize the financial "industry", and arrested the bankers for being crooked bankers.
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Overlord299 Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
To be fair the rich pay taxes, they pay the highest taxes in the American legal system. The Super rich do not. They evade higher taxes that people in my income bracket (500,000) have to pay via. Capital Gains tax, which is set at around 13%
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ComradeRichard Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
It is my belief that there should be a standardized tax percentage across the board rather than various smaller taxes or, as much as I hate supporting the stupid system, a flat tax would be preferable to the mess that is the American tax system. So, about, 20%-40% across the board wouldn't be too bad would it? Of course I do think that maybe the working class should pay only 20, middle class 30, and upper class 40, but, meh...I've never been a good economist.
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Overlord299 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
Like what we have here in Australia? I pay around 45% of my income to tax.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
And you see no problem with someone who had no hand in earning that income having a claim to it and having the power to use force against you if you don't want to pay?
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Overlord299 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
No, I take no issue with the government using it to provide me with healthcare and public transportation. If you don't want to pay the Tax the government levies on everyone then you can just leave the country, if the tax got to opressive in Australia then that is what I would do. But I am fine with things the way they are.
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ComradeRichard Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
40% should be fine, it's teetering right on half but isn't so extreme that it's horrid.
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Overlord299 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
Good to see we can reach a comprimise.
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ComradeRichard Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
Also, have fun with sonrouge, you'll either enjoy taking the piss out of his special brand of insanity or get incredibly agitated. Or ignore him, I opt for a bit of taking the piss out of and ignoring him since he's a condescending asshat.
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Overlord299 Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
He is a bit of an asshat isn't he?
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ComradeRichard Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
Yup.
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