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Privatisation is Robbery by Party9999999 Privatisation is Robbery by Party9999999
Chavez may be gone. But he will never be forgotten.
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artneo151 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
it is so sad that such good ideas were only a facade to hide the corruption of Chavez's regime and his ellimination of independent thinking media and how he fucked up Venezuela with what he did...

the problem with private owned health services and such, is that there is always corruption, private owned health, education etc is not inherently evil... but in the end it won't work because of corrupt idiots... the problem with Socialism, is that is normally used as a facade to some awful things (look at Castro and the Cuban People, who overthrew a dictator to let another rise)...
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TheSpikeAndKey Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Like Joe Hill Cesar Chavez who fought in their own time I know where I'm gona be right on that front line
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LeRevolutionnaire Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2013
a great man and a great revolutionary, it was the cia that arranged his murder using cancer, along with several other "left" leaders, coincidence?  I don't think so

 www.sott.net/article/259371-CIA-cancer-weapon-killed-Chavez
 
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013
He was a wise man. Although he had moral issues, he is still considered a wise man.
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lichtie Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013
Very True. Privatisation is 'killing' the National Health Service. People are more important than the profits that are salted away in 'Tax Havens'.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013
From what I've read on it, the NHS was dying long before anyone even breathed the word "privatisation" about it.

Oh, and perhaps those people who are salting away their money are trying to give folks like you a clue?
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lichtie Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013

Admittedly, the NHS WAS and IS in the need of some reform to meet the dynamics of a society that has changed greatly since its inception after WWII.

However, the NHS has provided health care for ALL residents of Britain, not just the rich, as it would seem to be the case of the US where millions cannot afford Health Insurance and die from the results of a lack of hospital and health care. 'Privatisation' of the NHS is turning the clock back to the beginnings of the 20th Century. The British people pay Taxes and National Insurance (according to their income and resources: property, investment returns and so on). The burden for the upkeep of the social infrastructure (including Health Care, 'Old' Age Pensions (which working class people have contributed to all their working lives), Benefits for the disabled and the needy is increasingly falling upon the less well off members of our society. I hesitate to use the descriptor 'POOR', as, in relative terms, we are in one of the more wealthy and privileged societies on the planet.

Nevertheless, I am certainly, not hesitant in criticising the manner in which the Rich (Fat Cats) are dodging  paying their FAIR share and are, instead, setting up 'front' companies in different countries to avoid paying Corporation Tax. As seems to be the case in both the US and the UK. Indeed, 'Salting' may be the wrong term, as recent events would seem to suggest that a substantial proportion of the 'wealth' of the 'Fat Cats' is being spent upon Crystal Meth, and Crack Cocaine. No wonder that the B(W)ankers have trashed the economies of the world. In the UK, it was the 'People', (yes, we do still try to think of others, rather than engage in selfish individualism and accruing personal wealth that virtually says F&*K you, I'm all right), that bailed out the Banks and Financial Institutions. Those 'Guilty' of making the mess, were rewarded with multi-million and $ pay-offs. Is this justified? or another example of the corrupt political and financial systems currently in place. Now that, the Banks have 'cash' again and are being split up and sold off to surprise, surprise, Private Investment Groups (curious how the acronym PIG seems to appear), the tax-payer which 'rescued' the Banks etc will receive nothing, despite high inflation and increasing energy costs. Unemployment is increasing in most sectors of the economy other than that of 'High Earners'.  Nurses and Doctors are working longer hours and shifts, with reduced staff and equipment. People are dying because of a lack of funding in essential areas. Privatisation is part of the illness not part of the treatment. I would also suggest that you might, perhaps, widen you reading material in order to gain a wider and more representative viewpoint.


 I'm not sure what exactly you mean by 'needing' a clue about salting away (false) wealth.

"Be happy with what you have and don't lust or crave for that which you don't need". Material and Financial 'Wealth' doesn't 'make' you a better person, in fact, it makes you the opposite: crass, boorish and contemptible. 

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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013
"However, the NHS has provided health care for ALL residents of Britain, not just the rich, as it would seem to be the case of the US where millions cannot afford Health Insurance and die from the results of a lack of hospital and health care."

Then why am I reading these horror stories on it:








"Nevertheless, I am certainly, not hesitant in criticising the manner in which the Rich (Fat Cats) are dodging  paying their FAIR share and are, instead, setting up 'front' companies in different countries to avoid paying Corporation Tax. As seems to be the case in both the US and the UK." 

Who and by what right, by what code, by what standard gets to define "fair share"?  And as much as folks like you would prefer to believe otherwise, there are people out there who became wealthy fair and square.  It would do you a world of good not to pass collective judgements.

"Be happy with what you have and don't lust or crave for that which you don't need". Material and Financial 'Wealth' doesn't 'make' you a better person, in fact, it makes you the opposite: crass, boorish and contemptible."

I don't recognize your right to decide what other people choose to pursue in their lives.  And who would provide funding for these hospitals you claim need it so badly if no one pursued wealth?  

"I'm not sure what exactly you mean by 'needing' a clue about salting away (false) wealth." 

Well, since you've apparently already passed judgement on such people without any evidence, this probably won't mean much, but many of those people who put in the time and effort to earn their wealth are saying to anyone who didn't (ie, politicians) "I don't recognize your right to a penny of my money."
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lichtie Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013

Pity you only seem to peruse 'Right Wing' Newspapers.(The papers you have listed are major contributors to the Conservative Party). Legislation would seem to be the 'Democratic' way to decide what is 'fair', however, the 'Rich and Influential' have corrupted the politicians and law makers on both sides of the Atlantic (and elsewhere). The 'people' no longer have any influence to determine their own lives and futures. The Chancellor of the Exchequer is expected to announce in his Autumn Statement today that the Pension Age will rise to 68. The average life expectancy in Scotland (from statistics on average incomes) is 59.8. That's one to solve the deficit, let the less well off die before the can retire. As I'm sure is the case in the US, most (and I do stress most ) politicians and wealthy have inherited wealth (and therefore have not 'earned' it), furthermore, hardly one has done any physical hard work in their entire lives. They have had a very 'privileged' upbringing and an excellent education (free and high standard education (as in health care) is one of the bedrocks of a decent, humane AND Democratic Society.

The amount of money wasted in election campaigns (donated by the wealthy, which, I suppose is THEIR democratic right) is obscene. There should be a cap on spending on these campaigns. How many schools, hospitals could this amount of cash build, support or even keep open?

Thee acquisition of vast wealth is usually (but not always) derived from the exploitation of others. This is especially true with the continual rising power of MNCs in the process of increasing Globalisation. It, will be interesting to see when China becomes the Economic Power that the US once was. China already owns a large tract of both US and UK manufacturing bases and financial institutions, as well as Government Bonds. We are all in 'hock' to China. Maybe China will start calling the shots on both our societies' way of life' and distribution of wealth.

There is vast gulf between US viewpoints on Taxation and the average Briton, Scotland especially which is historically more socialist than Most of England, the North East and North West being exceptions. In the area of Scotland where I live, as well has other areas, there are large Estates that have been 'owned' by the same family for generations( a nice little bit of inbreeding here, much the same as the Royal Family) In living memory, Estate workers were 'told' how to vote, if they didn't vote 'correctly' they would lose their jobs and they and their wife and children would be made homeless. Often they had to leave their 'tied' accommodation within 24 hours or even less.

 NHS-Scotland does have flaws, but, in general, is more efficient than the rest of the 'country'. The Scottish people will have their say on our future next year when we can vote for an Independent Scotland. WE, will then have right to decide what is a 'fair' rate of taxation and what benefits the social infrastructure can accrue from this independence. As you can probably guess, I will be voting yes.


An interesting little tome (well, not so little) is Erik S. Reinert's 'How Rich Countries Got Rich...... and Why Poor Countries Stay Poor'. It is objective in putting forward a viewpoint, which is more than can be said for the delusional ravings of the papers you mention. 

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