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Nationalism demotivator by Party9999999 Nationalism demotivator by Party9999999
Nationalism: the measles of the world
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Apispogo Featured By Owner Edited Sep 4, 2014  Student Interface Designer
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andrewtodaro Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Professional Artisan Crafter
Nationalism= a modern version of tribal loyalism.
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Jay-Quartermaster Featured By Owner May 13, 2014  Student Writer
You prefer "Internationalism" to Nationalism.

What works better; unity through a common heritage, or unity through destroying everyone else's heritage, including your own, for a utopian idealism?  Hint: America is an example for the latter.
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FoxyPika Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I love you for this.
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Saint-Tepes Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Nationalism is a belief, creed or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with, or becoming attached to, one's nation. It involves national identity, by contrast with the related construct of patriotism. 

Nationalism is a way of thinking that says that every ethnic group of humans should be free to rule itself. Nationalists think that the best way to make this happen is for every ethnic group to have its own nation and society that they can rule without being controlled or oppressed by anybody else.

Nationalism is for the right-wing what socialism is for the left-wing. Socialists like Stalin, Ceausescu, and North Korean Kim Dynasty are nationalists also, but North Korea is in an extreme way.

Nationalism is not bad, it is bad only when it because radical like ultra-nationalism, fascism and national-socialism.

What you made here is NOT nationalism it is Chauvinism, chauvinism is an exaggerated patriotism and a belligerent belief in national superiority and glory, NOT nationalism.

USSR war nationialist, ever heard of Soviet Social Patriotism also know as Soviet Nationalism? 

During World War II, Soviet socialist patriotism and Russian nationalism merged portraying the war not just as a struggle between socialists versus fascism but more as a struggle for national survival. During the war, the interests of the Soviet Union and the Russian nation were presented as the same, and as a result Stalin's government embraced Russia's historical heroes and symbols
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FoxyPika Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
THIS.
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MARXISTloljk Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Late as fuck, don't even care.

Throughout this time machine of a thread, there seems to be a constant insinuation that diabolical figures such as "Hitler" were nationalists. Yes, of course his agenda preached some foundation ideals of the concept; yet his sect of thought was (obviously) National Socialism - an extreme version of fascism. A political contraption that centred around purely ethnic supremacy and imperialism.

As inkled towards by certain members of this conversation, nationalism at ground-work sentiment is an ideology that preaches the right to self-determination, independence and existence of every ethnicity and people. The incessant lambasting of any nationalist publicity is majorly due to this ridiculous remembrance of individuals such as Adolf Hitler who devolved far below the tendencies and integral beliefs of the nationalist mindset.

Of course, nationalist groups possess the usual scoundrels and other ne'er-do-wells; oft proudly sporting shaved scalps and boasting somewhat imbecilic rhetoric. Yet are the Left entirely devoid of this problem, hmm? If I recall correctly, I have spied many youths of Left wing street-protest groups possessing similar mental and behavioural deficiencies. The only difference is, the lovely Marxist media adores to display unto the public the oh so evil and RACIST nationalists :(

Oh and this talk of "Nationalism brainwashes the proletariat with fanciful spoutings and compels them to perform the dirty work", hah! Really? Drivelling on about a utopian world removed from the natural yearnings bestowed upon us from birth does not? The Left is a force built on the utilisation of indoctrination.

Faceless uniformity of the worker is a concept that appeals to the selfish underclass and the sentimentalist bourgeoisie; while a people united in a struggle, whether culturally, economically or otherwise is an outlook adaptable to any member of any nation.
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The-Conquerors Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Well said. ~ C
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MARXISTloljk Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Late as fuck, don't even care.

Throughout this time machine of a thread, there seems to be a constant insinuation that diabolical figures such as "Hitler" were nationalists. Yes, of course his agenda preached some foundation ideals of the concept; yet his sect of thought was (obviously) National Socialism - an extreme version of fascism. A political contraption that centred around purely ethnic supremacy and imperialism.

As inkled towards by certain members of this conversation, nationalism at ground-work sentiment is an ideology that preaches the right to self-determination, independence and existence of every ethnicity and people. The incessant lambasting of any nationalist publicity is majorly due to this ridiculous remembrance of individuals such as Adolf Hitler who devolved far below the tendencies and integral beliefs of the nationalist mindset.

Of course, nationalist groups possess the usual scoundrels and other ne'er-do-wells; oft proudly sporting shaved scalps and boasting somewhat imbecilic rhetoric. Yet are the Left entirely devoid of this problem, hmm? If I recall correctly, I have spied many youths of Left wing street-protest groups possessing similar mental and behavioural deficiencies. The only difference is, the lovely Marxist media adores to display unto the public the oh so evil and RACIST nationalists :(

Oh and this talk of "Nationalism brainwashes the proletariat with fanciful spoutings and compels them to perform the dirty work", hah! Really? Drivelling on about a utopian world removed from the natural yearnings bestowed upon us from birth does not? The Left is a force built on the utilisation of indoctrination.

Faceless uniformity of the worker is a concept that appeals to the selfish underclass and the sentimentalist bourgeoisie; while a people united in a struggle, whether culturally, economically or otherwise is an outlook adaptable to any member of any nation.
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AnataraKentara Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Divisions are inert, both biologically and artificial. To sweep them away like a damn hippie makes you a dreamer.
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dashinvaine Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
I think you might mean 'inherent' rather than inert.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
To think inert differences matter makes you an ignoramus.
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AnataraKentara Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Differences are differences, adaptations, adaptations. To sweep them aside for nothing more than some idealistic dream creates conflict, not peace. I've lived in a melting pot and it was nothing short of hell. You, I can wager, probably have not. Try it sometime.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Have you ever thought the reason it was "nothing short of hell" was because of you?
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AnataraKentara Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh, because I'm surely the one running around, committing crimes and refusing to change a way of life that has been going on for nearly 60 years. Right.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Economics is what causes crime not race, culture or nationality. For example Blacks statistically commit more crime in the US, but they are also the poorest minority and until the end of the 20th century government policy was actively against blacks. If what you said were true, there wouldn't be a black US president and every black person would be a criminal. Same applies to other groups.

The reason I said what I said is because when I lived in a multi-cultural area the people who had a hard time and caused a lot of shit where the people who over focused on our differences such as white nationalists, radical Islamic ect...
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AnataraKentara Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
He is not black, he is mulatto. And what difference does it make? They may not be inclined to crime, but they adapted for their region, and us ours. Their genetics dominate ours, and by proxy, to survive, one must have a distance and gap between the two. They are not my group, and I care not for them. They will overtake us if we let them, and we shall not, no?
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Well guess again because I used to live in central London, possibly one of the most multi-ethnic and multicultural cities on the planet. My best friend was mixed race Nigerian/White British. I've also lived in Bradford too, which has the largest South Asian and Muslim population in the UK. I work as a TEFL qualified English language teacher and have just finished a 9 month contract in Kayseri, Turkey. I've also worked in Istanbul and Vietnam and I'm hopping to go teach in Japan next year. In my experience conflict comes about when people of different cultures/faith/ethnicity ect fail to integrate, and instead cling to their "own kind". People adopt a tribal mentality and this is where people begin to exalt their race/religion/whatever and conflict arises.
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AnataraKentara Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That Tribal Mentality is exactly why. We're programmed for it. In the end, this will cause a lot more conflict than benefits. I have seen it, and everywhere I look, there is always SOME form of it.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
We have a lot of shit programmed into us, doesn't mean it's right. If we only went by instinct we would probably still be living in caves.

Of course there are differences, the point is not to make them an issue. My country used to be 12 different kingdoms and was divided between various Celtic tribes. How many people nowadays even knows their name?
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nightchildmoonchild Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's okay to know where you have come from. It's not okay to pretend you're superior to others because of that place, as you have rightfully shown. Why humans busy themselves with which country is supreme, meanwhile there are so many more worthwhile and intriguing things to study and stand in awe in (for example, space), is beyond me. At the end of the day, it's a useless fight.
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dashinvaine Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2012
Communism was more like measles, since it ought to infect others, debilitated for a while, but eventually got shrugged off. (LOL. No, I can't seriously bring myself to speak of communism in the present tense, since it went out with the Trabant.) We might still have to deal with its petulant successor, Cultural Marxism, trying to chip away at Western Civilization, but it's all but forgotten the reason behind its habitual subversion. No one seriously thinks communism has a future. Communist countries had to build walls to keep people in, not out.

My nation is my nation because I was born in it, my children (if I have any) are likely to be born in it, so I want the best for it. Nationalism is rationalism. Nationalism is knowing and appreciating one's heritage. Nationalism is running one's country the way one's people want, and respecting other peoples' right to self-determination in their homelands. Nationalism allows for the obvious fact that different societies have different cultures, traditions, values, priorities, interests, beliefs, morals and characters.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
You sir are confusing Nationalism for Patriotism.
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dashinvaine Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
I don't believe so. One can be a patriot and an imperialist at the same time, but a nationalist can't be an imperialist without being a hypocrite.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
A Nationalist can't be an Imperialist? Are you serious? I guess you've never heard of the National Socialist party of Germany AKA The Nazi Party.
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dashinvaine Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Do you think they were Socialists?

Clearly they were misnamed, failing to achieve the ideals of either nationalism or socialism. If they were nationalists they would have respected Polish nationalism and national sovereignty. Nazis were supremacists, not nationalists.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I agree the Nazis were "socialist" in name only, but it IS what they called their political party and where the term "Nazi" originated from.

They WERE nationalist, and fascism is a form of nationalism as is all forms of colonialism/imperialism. But what would I know I only wrote a thesis on it at university.
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dashinvaine Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
If one is a proper Nationalist, one applies the principle of Nationalism evenly and universally; hence one recognizes the rights of other nations (the same rights one demands for one's own people, within their territory). If one disregards the rights and of other nations then one is not a pure or sincere nationalist.

An imperialist is by definition the very opposite of a nationalist. Empires establish regimes over other peoples, and involve the imposing of one culture upon another. This is not what a nationalist wants. A nationalist wants a homogeneous, organic, harmonious society, and implicitly wants self-determination for all peoples in their own homelands. Thus nationalism safeguards global diversity and protects all cultures from erosion.

Fascism is not a form of nationalism. Nationalism doesn't imply a preference for any particular form of government, providing it is suited to the people's needs, and providing the people's integrity within their nation is safeguarded.

I have also studied this at university, by the way, but it has taken me a while to realize how universities are dominated by cultural Marxism. Marxist ideologues have an interest in misrepresenting what nationalism actually is, and smearing it by association with fascism.
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Born-of-Wolves Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm actually a very strong Irish nationalist. I don't think Ireland is better than all other countries, but I love the Emerald Isle with all my heart.
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TheElevatedDeviant Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2012
"Nationalism is an infantile disease, it is the measles of mankind."
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GhastlyFarms Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think you understand... those flags represent the people + the culture, not the land mass they live on.
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PrincessAlta Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
Nothing wrong loving your country, people, culture and history.
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EigoKensai Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Nothing wrong with it at all, however it's thinking your culture is better than others or the best just because you were born into it, that is wrong.
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PrincessAlta Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
And that I agree with. Though most Nationists don't thin like that, that's a sterotype really.
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DKBrat19 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Aren't "communist" states more of a nationalist state than a capitalist state? The west barely have any military parades, Soviet Union always use military parade to wank how powerful their nation is. Plus, there is always 5th column in USA. I fail to see how people are more patriotic in USA than USSR.
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AlexDartois Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
Capitalism fails because people aren't that different.

Communism fails because people aren't that alike.

Anarchy fails because people aren't that good.

Totaitarianism fails because people aren't that bad.

What we need is Balancism.
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DKBrat19 Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Too bad most of the world's politicians are delusional.
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dohi55 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2011
Nationalism is not about always thinking that your country is the greatest f**king place in the world. Its about the love for your people, with everything that encapsulates. Respect for ones own history, culture and what makes your community special and unique. Most of all it is about the will to defend that which you love. A real nationalist appreciates every peoples struggle for their identity and right to exist in their own historical land. Neo-nazis and skinheads are no real nationalists.
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Safor Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011
Nationalism because people like stuff like being allowed to learn and use their own language, freedom of speech, practicing their own culture, not paying for the upkeep of an foreign military, laws that are not imposed by an foreign institution ect ect...

Sure most ideologies are harmful if pushed to the extreme.
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grimdrifter Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Anarcho Capitalist here... I love this! Nationalism is the measles of the world :D
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JederC Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
I'm assuming that you are Federalist/Socialist?
Possibly Communist?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011
Yeah I'm one of those evil marxist one worlders.
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JederC Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011
I wouldn't question the Communist system...
But it technically failed, since no one could model what Marx had dubbed as perfected in "The Communist Manifesto". Also, his 'prophecy' of the lower class overpowering the upper class to redistribute the welfare has never hppened either.
But I will say that hardcore capitalism sucks; just because they fought their way to the top doesn't mean it was done fairly. And some of the coporate scum that serve as bosses never bother to pay what their peons have worked for; they'd rather keep the bnuses to themselves.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011
Marx never called communism or anything he ever wrote as perfect, in fact The Communist Manifesto, makes the point that it is not a utopian idea, communism moved away from earier socialist by being a Scientific rather then utopian ideology.
The working class have rinse up many times over the years, paris commune, russian revoution, spanish revolution, cuban revolution etc etc just because they haven't won yet doesn't mean they won't.
technically Marx doesn't talk about the redistribution of wealth but rather it is proper distribution.
Capitalism was best summed up by Mr. Wormwood in the film Matilda.
"No one got rich being honest"
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JederC Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011
But of course. Nothing can be perfect.
In fact, I'd rather have people trying to kill me if I was President for doing the right thing than keep everyone numb to the risks they may soon face because I choose not to assess them.
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drivanmoffitt Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Fuck Nationalism their the people who keep us humans from uniting
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Habbex Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011
hahaha!

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onure Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
"How does it feel to worship a bunch of lines on a map?" That's great! I'll make a typographic artwork with this quote (I won't ask for your permission. As you know, communists don't care about that copyright bullshit :)). I'll let you know as soon as I submit it. Very very inspiring! Keep up the great work!
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xXxSp4rtyxXx Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2011  Student General Artist
Unlike these other commenting assholes here.... I love this quote! :clap:
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KpEMuKoBcu Featured By Owner May 16, 2011
I lol every time I see a commie.
How's the feeling knowing communism died 20 years ago,and nationalism's on the rise?
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