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My reaction every time someone uses the term "European style socialism"
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Sergios117 Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2015
THIS
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EdenianPrince Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2015
They mean Social Democracy, I'm pretty sure. 
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NeonAmbassitor Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015
As a Libertarian this annoys me too. People too often conflate Statism with Socialism.
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Hoshi-0461 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
HOW WAS SO MUCH OF YOUR STUFF NOT IN MY FAVOURITES ALREADY?!?!?!?!?!
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
the problem is there is only one well known success of socialism by name in history: the Nationalist, Socialist, German, Workers, Party! people use this as their example from my experience, i mean sadly that is the one thing people keep saying "socialism is what the nazis used, look at them!" and I have to sigh, that is the only way people would know, so I can't really provide proof without sounding like a fanatic, which disproves everything I could say.
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XXXNKVDOfficerXXX Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015  New member
Canada's technically Socialist.
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
yeah but no one ever thinks of that one off the bat, (not that they shouldn't) but think about it, it's like how people say "Ben Franklin discovered Electricity!" or "Henry Ford made the automobile!" Neither are true, but they are the first and foremost ones that come to mind, and sadly not in our time (if the past is an indicator) will this factor change. and i sound like a ranting Lunatic right now, trying to provide a point as to why I should't have to sound like one! I mean it's just like a vicious cycle. which is a shame as socialism can work off paper (unlike communism) and provide as promised with corrections made time to time to prevent the beginning laws from fading in meaning, much better than Communism or capitalism ( in respects to their own successes and shortcomings) and not to mention the only socialist parties in The United states are either A: associated with the fascists of Germany's past, or B: not at all powerful or willing to step into the lime light a bit, just kind of sitting it out on the sideline. 
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oblivionartcraft132 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2014
you have no idea how many people misuse the term socialism without even pointing out the good and bad of it and just says they hate it, and also i found a picture that says something about " european style socialism" even though most of European is mostly capitalist, especially france.
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Nutcase9 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Student General Artist
Yes, socialism works. No, we are not talking about National Socialism--in fact they are total opposites. Yes, you people are morons . . .

Sad, isn't it?
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WolfofEnder Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I agree. Fucking conservatives do not have a clue on what socialism even is. :icondoublefacepalmplz:
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Takakidra Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014
I absolutly agree!
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Kim-Il-Songun Featured By Owner Edited Oct 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Socialism has a very broad meaning, encapsulating everything from far-left (communism) to center-left (social-democracy, what you call "fake" European style socialism), just as conservatism encompasses everything from fascism to moderate center-right politics. Deal with it. The word "communism" exists and has a more precise definition that fits your unilateral vision of socialism so use this word instead. It exists for a reason. Let "socialism" exist in all its richness and -yes- contradictions.
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firstnamekate Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm from the UK and we have socialised healthcare. I understand that there is a lot of propaganda against this in the American media. Is that right? I don't understand why anyone would want anything else. 

The NHS has its problems, but these are not due to its being socialised. They are other factors (often stemming from capitalist sources). We have private healthcare if people wish to use it, but most people don't. 

If people from the UK talk online to people from the US and mention their support for a socialist healthcare system, they often get called "communist". It's quite surreal. America has socialised schooling, police service, fire service, libraries etc. Do they not recognise this? I get asked "Why should my taxes go to pay for someone else's healthcare?" … my answer is "Because the privileged looking after those in the most need is fundamental to a civilised society". Imagine if children born into poor families didn't call the fire service to rescue their baby sister from their burning house because they couldn't afford the fees or couldn't afford to call the police when they were being attacked. It's ridiculous.
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
the problem is People here in the US have a good memory, that is sadly often biased by the past's own views. so we immediately (see above comments by myself for these points too) hear socialism and go on the attack. It doesn't help that it's only real famous proponents one can name off hand with no research is michael Moore (Who I detest) and of course those who wore the swastika. so sadly it gets immediately demonized.
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Sonic1234567891 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
You can thank the Cold War for that.
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LadyRiddle26 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014
Thx, that needed to be said!
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LeRevolutionnaire Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014
Very good !
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Champion137 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
Communism and Socialism are close though. Marx was kind of in the middle, I think.
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RedStarryNight Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2014
Okay; will you stop misusing the word "democracy"?
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FinnishEcoSocialist Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Interface Designer
Socialism depends on democracy! 
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RedStarryNight Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
Many eventual dictatorships do.
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SparkKnight2 Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So true
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Aleksx000 Featured By Owner May 23, 2014
Lenin is the one to tell something with the word "social" in it, with all that "dictatorship with no way to remove it from power" crap.
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DAK-Rommel Featured By Owner May 10, 2014
Who uses that term? I've never heard of it.
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner May 12, 2014
The good folks at Fox News.
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Vengefulpadre Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
good god fox! This is why I get my news for the US from the BBC, and get my laughs from: (and in this order) FOX, CNN, the russian news network, and lastly (since my buddy manages to get it since he lives way out in Kentucky,  a beautiful little ÜBER conservative newsletter called the Lantern Lighter (it's the most oddly biased and yet not vicious thing ever, although calling people by racially hurtful names in it still)
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DAK-Rommel Featured By Owner May 12, 2014
Living in Europe, I've don't listen to Fox News. But it's good to know what goes on the US with this term. Thanks.
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xXpajaritoXx Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Amen to that, comrade
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SirRinge Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
European style socialism...? What?
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olblucat Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Socialists are as funny watching as it is to watch Creationists arguing with the evil evolutionists.  You cannot use a standard dictionary,  you have to use their own version of words and definitions or all the meaning goes into the trashcan where it belongs!
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GodDragonKing Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014
You mean you don't this reaction when Republicans toss it around?
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btwboo Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Karl Marx didn't invent "socialism" or "communism" to create the royal ****-ups of the 20th century, he genuinely tried to make a good governmental system.

It just doesn't work, and especially when it's utilized by nasty individuals (Stalin, etc.)
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Sovietwerewolf88 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Anarchism is everyone for them self
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Dowlphin Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Wrong. It wouldn't work that way. For a working anarchy, you need highly socially intelligent people who reject an egoistical mentality out of deep conviction.
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014
I don't know what Socialism really is and I don't give a fuck but I can tell you this : It's wont work ... it hasn't worked and it will never work. Any system that gives the state - ie the rich - power will never work. EVER !! The State by it's definition is a system of force that has to be escalated in order too establish order.

It's very weird that the Universe has no real laws ... just look at black hole , that brakes the law of gravity any day and let's not even mention that fact that if gravity is a universal constant then we should be dead by now because 1- the sun and 2 - the core of the universe  - but it sill functions and very successfully may I add. It's all about mechanisms and individuality  and the survival of the ... well of none if you think about it.
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VoughtVindicator Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
1.Capitalism, corporatism, monarchism, feudalism, theocracy and fascism all give the rich power and those are socialism' polar opposites.

2.The universe has laws, even black holes obey conservation of matter-energy, causality and thermodynamics.

3.The universe doesn't have a core.
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Dowlphin Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1) You confuse socialism with communism. You can actually have a socialist monarchy. Communism is the one (ideally) without central power.
People are so massively confused that it's sad. All you have to do to remember which is which is to look at the damn letters (sorry):
SOCIALism
COMMUNism
When people ignore the logic contained in language, things get messy, because ideas are miscommunicated. And they are VERY messy.
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014
1 - Yep  ... that's because most of humanity we wear made to believe we need a leader , a commander to guide us. But in most cases the leader was just a puppet of others people. They wear the ones that demanded a leader and now everyone is asking for one but back then none that "poor" demanded one. They demanded peace , so they chose war.

2 - A law is something that is obey everywhere but there are different types of back holes , galaxy's , suns  ...

3 - Yep but what it has it's a hart of cores.
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MyLittleTripod Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
What about Anarchism, wouldn't that be a form of Socialism.
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Nutcase9 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2014  Student General Artist
. . . er, no. Socialism still implies an imposed system, just a more sensible one, whereas no one remembers what anarchism is about anymore. :p
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014
Well I have no idea ... I see the system in action and then call it what it is. See none can ever tell you something that is accurate until he see is. The biggest fact of life !
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DeltaHD Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
True Socialism has never existed, what your thinking of is State Socialism!
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
That's like saying god never existed ... I know that , but can you say that to the BILLION that believe in him ? No ... never understatement the power of people to believe in something that it doesn't exist. And again ... all this systems that have huge theoretical potential are turned outside out by human nature ... typical. And about the state State Socialism ... well that's all around us now. The state can't ever mess with society and family but it does now - just look at the American Family ... it's turning into SHIT !!
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DeltaHD Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
I mean socialism in its purest form has never existed.
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
I'm sorry to say this but No system has ever existed in it's true form. It's just sad but this is how we humans are ... corrupt and greedy.
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Kdick0987654321 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2014
I'm the same way. I believe it is not the system itself that causes problems, it's the human nature of being greedy.
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Geopex Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
It annoys me so much when Socialism is used in descriptions of Europe, or when people automatically assume Socialism is Maoism and Stalinism.
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scholarwarrior-lad Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Much like Greek Sty;le yogurt. :O
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The-Necromancer Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
To be fair, Euro Communism is a legitimate line of thought. However, the whole "European style Socialism" thing is all too often a jibe at the European Union's less successful policies. And we all know just how Socialist the EU is, now don't we? What with being a predominantly financial and customs union, centered around varying market economies. Not to mention the unwavering commitment to upholding and expanding that whole NATO thing...
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brutusbg Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
Yes, but it´s all going to it´s logical ending. ĦBulgaria is in the team! :D (We´ve been with the Central powers (WW1), Axis (WW2), Soviet block\ Warsaw pact (they were tough- it took us decades)... And now EU and NATO let us in :D )
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