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Farewell Mandela by Party9999999 Farewell Mandela by Party9999999
The world is lesser without you, but the will struggle will continue.
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soulessone12 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014
rest in peace Mandela rest in peace -.-7
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JohnnyX-O Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2014
People ... how gives a fuck what the man did ? He was just a terrorist plain and simple , nothing less. Did he sell arms on the black market ? Yes. Did he killed a lot of innocent people ? Yes but he did it for the freedom of his country. Ok ... Do South African's live better then in the apartheid ? Ho gives a FUCK ... they are free ! Now that the country is in the hands a few very rich Africans the country is in the hands of Africans. Do this people care about the well-being of there Africans brothers ? No ... but they are better because they are Black. I like how the Mass Media feeds you clowns CRAP and you assholes like it. This man was the enemy of the west for a long time and then something happen that demanded to change the narrative so he become the friend of the west and everything he did and they said he did went away.  This man was a friend of Gaddafi. Obama was his admirer for his actions - that has no big meaning now but when you clowns see what Obama has done to your country ( USA ) and the world he will be in a nuclear bunker because you will all want him dead , or maybe you will welcome the bringer of the final nail in the west demise. You people are weird like that. So in the end it doesn't matter how Mendala was , it only matter that you watch the NEWS and never go in South Africa to see how the real people live now and ask them what is better - I don't claim to know what is better because I don't really care , I only need to know that the country is in the hands of people that think the same way as before. With that I know everything !
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
This man is a hero. Sadly his time has passed and now he hands us the torch to light a better future.
Let us take up that torch to end economic, social, and educational injustice so that humanity can live a better life.

Nelson Mandela, we will never forget your sacrifice!
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Emilion-3 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The world is changed without him. Without the flesh and blood man we are but the name lives on. His deeds have been done and the Great One has called his name.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Let's just ignore some of the despicable acts he and his side committed out of nothing but sheer savagery. 

Just because your cause may be just doesn't mean every action you take is just.
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Go back to Arkansas. You have no clear understanding of history or what sacrifices this man partook in to secure a better country and world. This man is greater than you ever will be.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
And if nothing else, asshole, I can at least claim to have never helped murder an innocent girl for the hoooorible crime of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.  
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
If you paid attention, this man was in jail at the time of this story arose. It was propaganda against the Freedom movement to issue that they don't care about women. However it backfired in South Africa because people knew that Mandela was in jail at the time.

And sure you claim innocents, but you probably vote for the Republican party conservatives who actively blame victims of rape for "being in the wrong place at the wrong time."

I pity your failure.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
"If you paid attention, this man was in jail at the time of this story arose. It was propaganda against the Freedom movement to issue that they don't care about women. However it backfired in South Africa because people knew that Mandela was in jail at the time."

If YOU paid attention, the perpetrators were part of the group Mandela started, and he himself called for violence in their movement (not to mention his then-wife, Winnie, was a well-known advocate of it), so nice try.  That was on top of the Umkhonto we Sizwe's bombing campaign which mostly killed random civilians, but hey, all's a-okay when the commies are the perps, right?

"And sure you claim innocents, but you probably vote for the Republican party conservatives who actively blame victims of rape for "being in the wrong place at the wrong time." 

And you follow a movement (collectivism) that's helped perpetrate some of the greatest mass murders in history, so as always, kiss my ass and go fuck yourself.  Either put your balls where your mouth is or shut up.

"I pity your failure." 

Considering what you collectivists view as success, thanks for the compliment, chum.  
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Collectivists have caused the greatest mass-murders of all? Shall I mention that the Crusades (all 15), World War One, World War II, The extinction of the Native Americans, and recently the multiple labor mishaps have all been caused by individuals? Not to mention that Stalin, Mao, and Hitler actually advocated State Capitalism as opposed to socialism or communism. In State Capitalism, there is no elections, no worker organization, and no democracy. However considering your research on the subject, I'm not surprised that you fall victim to the mis-naming.

And yes there were terrorists in South Africa at the time, that is totally clear. What is not clear is that Mandela was the cause of such a crime. He did not have anything to do with those bombings. It would be like comparing MLK's Freedom march to the Black Panthers. While both had similar goals, their methods are different.


Personally I believe you hate Mandela because he was a Socialist, like myself. If you honestly hate Mandela because he was a Socialists I think you should also hate Albert Einstein, Walter Cronkite, MLK, Patrick Stewart, Gene Roddenberry, Malcolm X, Eugene Debs, Mother Jones, H.G. Wells, George Orwell, Jack London, and shall I mention Lewis Sinclair?

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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
I will simply say this:  When anything is placed above the individual, the individual becomes expendable.  Collectivists like you believe that it is only groups that matter, ergo, the individual's rights are inconsequential if the group benefits, and if he has to die so that the group benefits, then it sucks to be him.  That is what has allowed people like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and all the others to justify their acts of mass murder; they trumpeted the many above the individual, and since no one person constitutes the many, it becomes easy to devalue him/her.
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Stop using an either/or fallacy. I believe an individuals rights are just as important as the collective rights of everyone. The basic idea of socialism is just that, every worker gets a fair pay and they can come together to vote on stuff.

In fact I have studied Hitler a great deal during my self education in History. Did you know that he was elected because he held the idea that individual German Aryans are more important than immigrants? Yes, and so became a group following a man out of ignorance of the individual, not the collective.

So go ahead, stay in your siege mentality. But don't say that I don't concern myself for individuals. 
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Does it smell good up in your ass?
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2013
Is that the best you have for an insult? You don't insult me, you don't threaten me, and you don't understand the world around you.

You are a pathetic man who listens to far-right rhetoric about the world, which is slowly deluding you from reality. Reality, has a well known liberal bias; as evident from Einstein, Darwin, Orwell, H.G. Well (ironically enough), Aristotle, Plato, and Mandela.

These people evolved away from the conservative rhetoric to come to different ideas about science, logic, society, and even economics. Now it is time you move away too.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
I did move away from such rhetoric long ago, chum.  But of course, I'm still "right-wing" if I don't goosestep to your farting and belching, right?
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
If you have moved away from it, why do you sound like you still follow the belief system?
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Because you're of the opinion that if I don't follow your views to the letter, I'm your enemy.
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Jmoc1 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
In what post did I say that?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013

The ANC had no choice but to take up armed struggle. The Apartheid Government made any peaceful struggle impossible so they made violence inevitable.


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Leisure-Pirate Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
So he magically killed her despite being in prison at the time?
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
The armed group HE started is the one who did such things and his wife at the time was an ardent supporter of them.  He could've spoken out against them and forbade them as a tactic.

Anytime you want to do your own thinking on the subject, feel free.  I'm paid enough to think for you.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
So that meant the ANC was justified in using torture and brutality against anyone it suspected of being against them?  Including children (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maki_Sko…?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
Such actions became inevitable when faced with an incredible repressive state.  Sorry It can't be flowers and rainbows.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
You always have a goddamn excuse for your side, don't you, gasbag?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
Because I understand the realities that oppressed people face on a daily bases.  
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
So that makes it okay for them to oppress people in turn?  How does that make them any better?
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013
The masses don't have a Gulch to run off to we have to change the world we have and we can't do that by playing ball with those who oppress us.
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TwistedUnreality Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Nelson Mandela was one of the reasons I still had faith in humanity. We need more people like him in this world. Human beings like him are incredibly rare... such a shame he passed. 

Rest in Peace, Nelson Mandela. 

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DeltaHD Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
R.I.P Neslon Mandela :'(














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MornofVivec Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Farewell, Nelson Mandela, you will be missed. Let us continue to do good in Mandela's name!
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LaPrezCheQueenvara Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Student General Artist
Another great man dies...... So sad..... So very sad............
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SovietNickie Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Student Writer
It was tragic, there are few men in this world still like him. It seems like society simply does not raise people like him anymore. 
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The-Necromancer Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Woah...

Didn't hear a damn thing about this yet today...

While it's not surprising, as he'd been in poor health for a little while now, truly the world has lost one of it's greater champions for justice.
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DaLong8 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013

true fighter doing all for his nation. glory and honor to Mandela.

Long Live :salute: :peace:

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Trollingandco Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
He was a good man, he will be missed.
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Robo-Diglet Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
Rest in Peace, Nelson. You will forever be missed by South Africa, and the world.
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Atamolos Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
May this great man be remembered as a revolutionary.
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
I believe he's up there with MLK and Malcolm X
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
You really think MLK, who pushed non-violent resistance and doesn't have a violent act to his name, would want anything to do with a man who at one time pursued acts of terrorism and barbarism?
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Why are you even on this? In fact, why the hell do you even comment on things that you strongly disagree with?
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Because Party has a habit of ignoring facts that he doesn't like.

And it was a simple question.  No need to shit your pants.
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Most of DA is putting a Rest In Peace art and journals for Nelson Mandela and so far you're one of the few people who is talking shit about Mandela
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Yeah, how dare I point out facts about him that no one wants to address.  How dare I show him to not have always been the heavenly saint people prefer to think of him as, while going after other people for lesser things.

How dare I apply the same standard to him that I apply to everyone else, rather than sucking up to him because of his skin color.
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godofwarlover Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
He's gone now and he was also against apartheid in South Africa. That is what gaved him respect
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
Yeah, and in the name of fighting it, he supported many actions that mostly killed civilians, including the blacks he claimed to be defending.  

As I said in a lower post, just because your cause is just doesn't mean every action you take in pursuit of it is just.  
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EuropeanCowboy Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013
Truly one of the greatest politicians of this age.
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
And now that he is a maggot feast the conservatives and reactionaries will try to claim him as their own
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The-Necromancer Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Considering he'd been a relative figurehead in South Africa for more than a few years now, The-Necromancer would say that process likely started already...
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EuropeanCowboy Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013
I don't know what it's like in South African politics, but those 'reactionaries' over hear aren't even trying to hide their pleasure at his passing. I posted a memorial on my NationStates region's offsite forum, and this is the reply I got from one person

"He was a terrorist and a onetime member of the South African Communist Party. Good riddance."
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